Soon after President Thomas S. Monson became the President of the Church there was a broadcast that I attended. My parents and siblings went to our Stake Center and watched this broadcast where President Monson spoke for the first time as President of the Church. I had the most unique experience. As I watched him speaking he looked somehow different. There was something very different about him than when he was an Apostle. My father said it was the “prophetic mantle.” Call it what you will it was a very unique and special experience for me.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is lead by men who are sustained as Prophets, Seers, and Revelators. It is their calling to receive revelation for the Church. In this post I would like to examine the wonderful nature of having living Prophets. I would also like to look at the ways in which President Monson fulfills these roles on a daily basis.
First before, going into detail, I would like to define some terms. We as Latter-day Saints often throw around the terms, prophet, revelation, prophecy, etc. But what do they really mean. The best way to define them is by looking in the scriptures. The Word of God holds the key to knowing what these things really mean.
Doctrine and Covenants 107:92
92 Behold, here is wisdom; yea, to be a seer, a revelator, a translator, and a prophet, having all the gifts of God which he bestows upon the head of the church.
This verse describes what gifts the President of the Church has. He is a seer, a revelator, a translator, and a Prophet.
Joseph Smith, Jr. used this gift to translate the Book of Mormon, the Bible, and the Book of Abraham. Since Joseph Smith, no other church leader has used this gift. But we know that someday the Brass Plates, and the Sealed portion will come forth and this gift will soon be used.
What is a translator? This is probably the simplest to define. A translator is someone who, through revelation, receives a translation for a document or record written in another language. The important thing is that this is an inspired translation. As in the case of the Book of Abraham it was not a literal translation of the Egyptian Language. The JST Bible was not a translation of ancient records but it filled in information.
The fruits of a translator are, of course, translations.
A revelator is someone who receives messages from God. Usually these messages speak of current matters rather than the past or the future.
The Fruits of a Revelator
The fruits of a Revelator are of course revelations. However in the Church the word “revelation” has many different shades of meaning, i.e. inspiration, personal revelation, etc. In the broadest sense revelation is any communication from God to His children. However this cannot be confused with other types of revelation. For example if a member prays to know the Book of Mormon it is revelation, but not like the revelation in the Doctrine and Covenants. So for this article we will call this personal type of revelation, inspiration. And the revelation that directs the church we will call revelation.
The very nature of the word revelation implies that something is revealed, or uncovered. It means that something previously unknown was made known.
While researching for a previous article I was able to search the Doctrine and Covenants and I identified some basic principles of what constitutes a revelation. They are these(Remember this is for governing the church not personal revelation/inspiration):
– Spirit of Revelation comes when the Holy Spirit speaks to our hearts and our minds. (D&C 8:2,3)
– Revelation can only come by one who has been appointed by the person who held this power to reveal. (D&C 43:1-4)
– Revelations are distinct from general teachings. (D&C 43:5)
Some additional qualifications can be known by observing how revelation was given through the first revelator of this dispensation.
– 82% of the sections in Doctrine and Covenants are given as if the Lord was speaking in the first person. From this we can assume that most revelations will be given in the first person, i.e. “I the Lord speak unto you…”
– Joseph Smith wrote his revelations down, or had them written down.
– Joseph Smith received revelations sometimes with and sometimes without an external aid such as an angel or seer stone.
– Joseph Smith taught that a newer revelation will not contradict a previous revelation.
So from this we can deduce some rules that will almost always apply to revelations for church governance. Granted, there may be some times when some of these rules do not apply.
– is communication from God.
– reveals previously unknown information.
– comes from the Spirit.
– is given directly to the mind or through an external source.
– comes through one appointed.
– is given in the first person as the Lord.
– is written down and published.
– will not contradict a previous revelation.
We can use these criteria to study modern revelation from our church leaders today.
The term “prophet” seems to be fairly ubiquitous for members of the Church and even in the scriptures. We generally apply the term prophet to a person without really looking at what a prophet does. What I mean is that usually the people we call prophets are also seers. And the gift of a seer include the gifts of a prophet. So I think when we say “prophet” we actually mean “seer”.
The Bible Dictionary tells us that, “as a rule a prophet was a forthteller rather than a foreteller.”
But seeing as the Bible Dictionary is not scripture we may dismiss it. And that is precisely what I will do. This entry was the opinion of some scholar, probably Bruce R. McConckie. And it does not fit with the scriptural examples of prophets. It does fit with seers though, which further supports the seer/prophet conflation.
By using the scriptures we can see that a prophet is not just a messenger, but is someone who delivers messages about the future. Keep in mind many of the people we reference in the scriptures were seers which means they were also revelators(as I will discuss later). So it is important to distinguish when “prophet”(meaning seer) is speaking as a prophet or a revelator. We cannot just assume that any message delivered by a seer is a prophecy, because that message may actually be a revelation rather than prophecy.
A great example of a prophet in action is Helaman 9:25-37.
The Fruits of a Prophet
As discussed in the preceding paragraph the fruits of a prophet are prophecies. So what exactly are prophecies?
The Testimony of Christ is the Spirit of Prophecy(Rev 19:10). Note this is the Spirit of Prophecy not the actual prophecy itself. What this means is the prophecies will always testify of Christ. Whether the prophecy concerns the life of Christ, the destruction of a city or whatever, it will always relate to the work of God through Christ.
Here I will include some scriptural references, by reading them we can understand what qualities a prophecy will have. You may ask how can we determine what a prophecy is when it is not specifically defined. Well, by looking at the qualities of phrases and writings that have been identified as prophecy we can determine what qualities a true prophecy will have.
1st Nephi 1:4 – Many prophets prophesied that the Jews must repent or Jerusalem will be destroyed. The was a warning about a future event(the destruction of Jerusalem)
1 Nephi 5:17-19 – Lehi prophesied. This prophecy talked about the future of the brass plates.
2 Nephi 1:6 – Lehi prophesied that, “there shall[(future tense)] none come into this land
save they shall be brought by the hand of the Lord.”
2 Nephi 25:7 – Prophecies of Isaiah “shall be fulfilled”. This means that Isaiah’s prophecies concern the future and will be fulfilled in the future.
D&C 101:19 – The prophets will be fulfilled. Meaning the prophets spoke about something that was not fulfilled at their time.
D&C 130:12 – Joseph Smith prophecies about a war that will happen in the future.
D&C 133:64 – Malachi wrote concerning the future and they will be fulfilled in the future
Even though these verses are but a small sampling we can see a clear trend. This is, that prophecies do in fact concern the future. Which means that when a prophet speaks it will be about the future. This may sometimes be a warning to the people.
Mosiah tells us a lot about what a seer is and does.
15 And the king said that a seer is greater than a prophet.
16 And Ammon said that a seer is a revelator and a prophet also; and a gift which is greater can no man have, except he should possess the power of God, which no man can; yet a man may have great power given him from God.
Here we learn that a seer is a revelator AND a prophet. This is where a lot of confusion comes from. When we read the scriptures and a person we label as a prophet speaks, we assume those are the things a prophet speaks. But in reality a Seer speaks both the things of a prophet, a revelator, and even a translator. So we have to be careful to distinguish these. But we can know if a person is a seer because they will speak both prophecy and revelation not just prophecy alone or revelation alone.
13 Now Ammon said unto him: I can assuredly tell thee, O king, of a man that can translate the records; for he has wherewith that he can look, and translate all records that are of ancient date; and it is a gift from God. And the things are called interpreters, and no man can look in them except he be commanded, lest he should look for that he ought not and he should perish. And whosoever is commanded to look in them, the same is called seer.
A seer can translate. And a many times a seer can “see” a thing through the aid of physical objects. In this verse it is talking about the Nephite interpreters. The Nephite interpreters were described by Joseph Smith:
“Also, that there were two stones in silver bows—and these stones, fastened to a breastplate, constituted what is called the Urim and Thummim—deposited with the plates; and the possession and use of these stones were what constituted Seers in ancient or former times; and that God had prepared them for the purpose of translating the book.”
Joseph Smith also used such objects for receiving revelations and translations. Joseph Smith translated part of the Gold plates using these same Nephite interpreters. He then used Seer stones to translate the Book of Mormon and receive many revelations. I know, I know, I’m talking crazy talk here. We’ve all seen the pictures of Joseph Smith pondering over the plates and dictating the translation. But this is not how it happened. Witnesses at the time show us that Joseph Smith looked into his seer stones and saw the translation for the Book of Mormon.
17 But a seer can know of things which are past, and also of things which are to come, and by them shall all things be revealed, or, rather, shall secret things be made manifest, and hidden things shall come to light, and things which are not known shall be made known by them, and also things shall be made known by them which otherwise could not be known.
This scripture tells us what a seers gifts are. And they contain all elements of a seer, a revelator and a prophet.
So what are the fruits of a seer? The fruits of a seer are visions, revelation, translations, and prophecies. You can tell a seer because he will be able to do all these things not just one or two of them.
But there is something we need to watch out for. Joseph Smith taught that revelations(including prophecies and visions) can come from God, man, or Satan. A prophecy of man will not be accurate. A prophecy from the devil will have power, but not progress the work of God. A prophecy of God will come to pass and manifest God’s power. The same thing applies to visions and revelations.
By Their Fruits
Many people reject President Monson as a prophet, seer, and revelator because they don’t even bother to look at what he does. They just outright dismiss any possibility that such a man could exist today. But the scriptures tell us that we cannot simply dismiss these things. We have to examine the fruit of the leaders of the Church. And as members we should invite those not of our faith to examine the fruits of our leaders so they too can know that they are called of God.
15 ¶Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
While this verse specifically speaks of false prophets(seers, revelators, translators) it applies equally as well to true prophets(seers, revelator, translators). A true prophet will bring forth prophecies. A true revelator will bring forth revelations. Just like an apple tree will bear apples, not bananas, a true prophet will bring forth prophecies and not some other work.
This article is already getting long but I think the rest of what I have to say will be of worth. For the rest of this article I would like to examine the fruits of the President of the Church, Thomas Monson. If you have friends, family, or coworkers who are interested in the Church, I invite you to share this article with them. It may help them to understand and value the need for revelation from God in the past and also modern revelation through Seers today.
Prophecies of President Monson
One of the greatest thing we have in the church is that we are lead by a prophet. So here in this section we will examine some of President Monson’s prophecies. In researching for this section the first place I turned to was of course the Ensign. For those of you who don’t know, the Ensign is a monthly magazine published by the Church. It contains the latest words from the leaders of our church. I thought the best place to start researching would be in the latest conference ensign. The words contained therein can provide us with powerful insights.
Now as I read the conference talks by President Monson I noticed that there was nothing in them that really qualifies as prophecy. Now keep in mind we are just talking prophecy here, not revelations. It is understandable the President Monson wouldn’t give many prophecies during conference since we’ve already had many prophecies over the years. You can’t expect some amazing new prophecy every General Conference.
So the next place I turned was to the Church’s website, LDS.org. After searching on LDS.org I still could not find anything said by President Monson that qualifies as, or even purports to be, a prophecy. At this point in my research I was kind of wondering, has President Monson given any prophecies. If he has, you would think they would be readily available to read.
My next move was to turn to handy old google. If I searched “Prophecies of Joseph Smith,” I could find a plethora of links that contain his prophecies. Yet when I searched, “Prophecies of Thomas S. Monson” there was not a single website that had a list. Not on mormon.org, thomassmonson.com, followtheprophet.net, nothing. Not a single tiny inkling of a prophecy.
The closest I came to finding a prophecy was on a blog where the author listed what he thought were prophecies from a General Conference in 2009.
The prophecies were these:
– The Lord is with us and will stand by us (be of good cheer).
– Those who endure in faith, enduring the crosses of the world, will inherit eternal life.
– The future is as bright as our faith.
Now while these statements do discuss the future they certainly do not go very far as being a prophecy. They read more like generic statements that any random person could give. I don’t know if the actual words are more detailed and these are just this person’s vague notes. But these words lack the power of a true prophecy.
As far as I can tell President Monson has never given a prophecy. What does this mean? Well, if we look at the example earlier if I look at a tree and it has apples hanging from its branches, not bananas, I’m probably going to assume it is an apple tree and not a banana tree. Likewise if President Monson has not brought forth any prophecies, it is entirely reasonable to conclude that he is not a prophet. But do not dismiss him. Because if he can still meet the qualifications of a Seer or a Revelator. And we sustain him as a prophet, SEER, and REVELATOR. So we can’t just focus on prophecies, especially when we have so many already. Next let’s look at the modern revelation that the Lord gives President Monson to guide us.
Revelations of President Monson
While researching for prophecies in President Monson’s conference talks I kept my eye out for revelations. When I was done what I found was wonderfully written talks which contained a complete lack of revelation. Now remember we are talking about revelation for the church, not inspiration.
So once again I searched lds.org for revelations of President Monson. And once again my searches came back void of anything Thomas S. Monson has given that qualifies as revelation according to the scriptural definition.
I turned again to google and again still nothing! Thomassmonson.org and followtheprophet.net, two websites dedicated to following this man and his teaching are completely devoid of ANYTHING that qualifies as, or even claims to be, a revelation from God.
The best I could find came, again, from the opinions of some bloggers.
They stated that the calling of new Apostles counted as revelation.
One poster claimed that there are doctrinal and administrative revelation. And that while doctrinal revelation is “scant,” administrative revelation is “on-going”
I will admit that while the modern calling of new apostles may have basis in inspiration, it cannot be called revelation. Primarily because it was not published. A common misconception among members is that the Doctrine and Covenants only contains those revelations that were profound. But when we look at Sections 18 and 118 we can see that they are about nothing more profound than the calling of apostles and filling of vacancies in the Quorum of the Twelve. So if historically it has been shown that even the revelations calling Apostles were published, shouldn’t that still apply today?
Another poster included what he termed “the most important and significant Revelation Monson had.” And this revelation was apparently “what’s contained in that letter to support prop 8.”
However this cannot be considered revelation either. While it was published, it does not contain the Word of the Lord. Rather it is written from the perspective of the First Presidency. It does not even claim to have the Lord’s support.
So again, as with prophecies, we are confronted with an utter dearth of revelation from Thomas Monson.
Seership of President Monson
Seership contains not only prophecy and revelation, but also visions. I have searched high and low and have not found a published vision from President Monson.
Do I even need to talk about translations? Even though he is not sustained as a translator, the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints must be a translator, according to scripture.
He is completely lacking in the fruits of a Seer and a translator.
I mentioned earlier that Prophets, Seers, and Revelators can receive revelations from God, man, and Satan. However as we look at the prophecies, revelations, visions, and translations of President Thomas Spencer Monson it is surprising to see that, he has not only not given us prophecies, revelations, visions, and translations from God; but also he has not given us any prophecies, revelations, visions, and translations from man or Satan. It is shocking to discover that he has not given us ANY prophecies, revelations, visions, and translations whatsoever. If a man claims, or is claimed by others, to be a Prophet, Seer, and/or Revelator that person should at least have given some kind of revelation, even if it is just from man or Satan.
Now I want you to keep in mind, all I am examining here is Thomas Monson’s public words and actions. I have no idea as to what happen’s behind closed doors. Maybe the Lord delivers revelations(not speaking of inspiration) to President Monson and they just aren’t made public. Maybe they just concern administrative matters.
The problem with this is that the Lord has commanded in at least five places in the Doctrine and Covenants that revelations need to be published. There has not been one revelation given that prohibits all revelations from being published. So you would think that from 1890 to 2011 at least one teensy-weensy revelation would have been published. Not even the revelations that are supposedly behind such major changes as Official Declarations 1 and 2 have been published.
What’s more is that every time a prophet or seer has been called by God they have been called to relay God’s warnings or messages to a people. They have never been called to keep the revelations to themselves and give their own advice to the people instead.
The argument the revelation today happens, but behind closed doors, is not only weak, but preposterous.
I’m sure that some of you reading this will be saying to yourselves, “I know President Monson is a Prophet. I know it. I just know it.” But I want you to truly examine what you believe. How did you gain this knowledge? If you have prayed about it or feel good that is great. I had a special experience too. But it is not enough to have a singular witness of something. Have you forgotten the Law of Witnesses? Doctrine and Covenants 6:28 tells us that the word will be established by two or more witnesses. You’re spiritual witness must be confirmed by another witness. For example, a spiritual witness of the Book of Mormon must be confirmed by seeing the prophecies, contained therein, fulfilled. A spiritual witness that a man is a prophet must be confirmed by that man actually bearing the fruit of a prophet(Matthew 7:15-20).
Examine President Monson’s words and actions. Do they match what the scriptures describe a true prophet should say, do, and be? It’s your journey. It’s up to you to decide what and who you believe in.
A true prophet will not hide his fruits in the darkness of administrative offices, leaving the people to have faith that he is a prophet. You can have faith in Christ but you cannot have faith in a prophet. A prophet cannot save us(Ezekiel 14).
Some Other Things
Before I finish up this already long post, here are some other things to consider when examining Thomas Monson’s claim to be a prophet, seer, and revelator.
Article of Faith 5
We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
However if we look at the calling of Thomas Monson we can see that we was not in fact, called by prophecy. He appointment was laid out in the Charter of the Corporation of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Fourth: The title of the person making these articles of incorporation is “President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.” He and his successor in office shall be deemed and are hereby created a body politic and corporation sole with perpetual succession, having all the powers and rights and authority in these articles specified or provided for by law. But in the event of death or resignation from office of the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or in the event of a vacancy in that office from any cause, the President or Acting President of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles of said Church, or one of the members of said Quorum thereunto designated by that Quorum, shall, pending the installation of a successor President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, be the corporation sole under these articles, and the laws pursuant to which they are made, and shall be and is authorized in his official capacity to execute in the name of the corporation all documents or other writings necessary to the carrying on of its purposes, business and objects, and to do all things in the name of the corporation which the original signer of the articles of incorporation might do; it being the purpose of these articles that there shall be no failure in succession in the office of such corporation sole.
His appointment was not given by prophecy rather he was appointed by a legal document filed with the government of the United States of America. So in essence we could say that his appointment came from the United States government.
Additionally apostles are only supposed to become apostles if they have seen Christ. However, today, Apostles the requirement has largely fallen by the wayside, without a revelation saying that this requirement no longer applies. One person recalls attending a meeting back in 1997 where, then Apostle, “[Thomas Monson] told us that he has NEVER PERSONALLY HAD ANY VISIONS but that he receives a witness of things through the spirit.” As far as I’m aware, since then, President Monson has never said that he has seen Christ. If he has, then it is his responsibility to tell everyone about it. That is why he is a special witness of Christ. If he has not seen Christ, then his claim as being an apostle was not valid. And he was/is not a special witness of Christ. What most of us don’t understand is that “special witness of Christ” doesn’t mean “witness of Christ whom God has guided to a leadership position.” It means a unique witness of Christ. Unique in the fact that the person has seen Him.
If we look at the history of humanity it is a rare thing that a church will remain righteous long enough to have a hierarchy of prophets and seers. What often happens is that the people reject the true prophets and seers and follow after false ones. Then the Lord must call prophets and seers from outside the prevailing church hierarchy. For example, Lehi, Abinadi, Samuel the Lamanite, John the Baptist, Jesus Christ, and Joseph Smith. It is inevitable that at some point in the future of the church, that the Lord’s true prophets and seers will come from outside the church hierarchy, not from the Quorum of the Twelve.
Most true prophets and seers are not successful or great men in the world. And if they are, they give up all they have to serve God.
True prophets are despised and hated of the world. If you click here you can see many of the praises and awards Thomas Monson has received from the world.
The things they teach are hard to do. Even for those who hearken to them. Additionally they often preach about the iniquity of the people.
I want to compare some images of President Monson with some artistic representations of past Seers. Let’s se how President Monson’s calling as a prophet, seer, and revelator compares.
Reception by the World
Who would you think is the true prophet?
This is the conundrum of our leaders today, including President Monson. They, and he, do not fit the scripturally established model of true prophets, seers, and revelators.
A Good Man
I hope that what you have read so far has not been condemning or negative towards Thomas Monson as a man, and child of God. I do not mean to attack him or belittle him. Rather I only want to confront the claim that he is a prophet, seer, and revelator. As such I just want to make sure everyone reading this knows, that from what I know of him, he is not a bad man. He seems to be a very thoughtful and kind person. He listens to promptings of the Spirit. He helps those who stand in need of help. He is a great comfort to many people.
In my previous ward, the ward mission leader and Gospel Essentials class teacher was one of President Monson’s young men, back when Brother Thomas was a bishop. So I have heard a great many stories from this man who knows President Monson on a personal level. They talk to each other frequently as if they are best friends. From the stories I have heard, I believe Thomas Monson to be a good an honorable man. But being a good and honorable man is not enough to qualify one as a Seer of the Lord. One must have special gifts. Gifts which inevitably result in certain fruits. And these fruits are lacking in President Thomas S. Monson. I love him as a fellow follower of Christ and child of God. I support him in his spiritual journey. But should I sustain a man as a prophet who does not have the fruits of a prophet?
What This Means to Me
My views concerning this situation echo Adam after coming out from the Garden, “I am looking for messengers from my father.” Thomas Monson is a nice and kind man. He undoubtedly receives inspiration just like any other person on earth. But the claim that he is a seer, revelator, and prophet fall incredibly short. He does not exhibit a single fruit that a seer would exhibit. So even though many times throughout the year the members of the Church raise their hands and sustain him as a prophet, seer, and revelator this does not change his nature. You cannot vote someone to have gifts.
I hope you will forgive me for channeling Boyd Packer, but you can no more vote to decide the gender of a cat, than you can vote to determine the prophethood or seership of a man. Thomas Monson is an effective leader, but from the fruits we have available to review, he is no prophet, seer, or revelator.
Yet every conference we continue to raise our hands to sustain him in gifts he does not possess. I truly wonder if the words of Samuel the Lamanite can apply to us today.
24 Yea, wo unto this people, because of this time which has arrived, that ye do cast out the prophets, and do mock them, and cast stones at them, and do slay them, and do all manner of iniquity unto them, even as they did of old time.
Do we today reject true messengers and messages from God simply because they come from outside the Church hierarchy? Do we deny the principles, practices, and teachings that previous prophets taught(Law of Consecration, Literal Gathering of Israel, Building the City of Zion)?
25 And now when ye talk, ye say: If our days had been in the days of our fathers of old, we would not have slain the prophets; we would not have stoned them, and cast them out.
Do we look back at the time of Christ and think that we would have accepted him? Do we think we would have listened to the Words of Samuel the Lamanite or Abinadi if we were living back then?
26 Behold ye are worse than they; for as the Lord liveth, if a prophet come among you and declareth unto you the word of the Lord, which testifieth of your sins and iniquities, ye are angry with him, and cast him out and seek all manner of ways to destroy him; yea, you will say that he is a false prophet, and that he is a sinner, and of the devil, because he testifieth that your deeds are evil.
We as a people hate those who talk of our sins. If someone shows through the scriptures that we are under condemnation, we hate them and don’t listen to them. If someone critically examines our leaders we reject them and throw out their words. We hate people who tell us that we are not living how we should.
27 But behold, if a man shall come among you and shall say: Do this, and there is no iniquity; do that and ye shall not suffer; yea, he will say: Walk after the pride of your own hearts; yea, walk after the pride of your eyes, and do whatsoever your heart desireth–and if a man shall come among you and say this, ye will receive him, and say that he is a prophet.
But if we have a leader who tells us that we are on the right track we love him. If a leader says we don’t have to live the Law of Consecration, there’s no problem with this, we think it’s great. If we have leaders who tell us we are the chosen people and we can never be led astray, we listen to his words. It is these people we call prophets. People who support what we already believe, are those we love.
28 Yea, ye will lift him up, and ye will give unto him of your substance; ye will give unto him of your gold, and of your silver, and ye will clothe him with costly apparel; and because he speaketh flattering words unto you, and he saith that all is well, then ye will not find fault with him.
We pay 10% of our income to the church contrary to the scriptures. The investment income that comes from this money goes to make people rich.
I pray that we will take the following questions seriously.
29 O ye wicked and ye perverse generation; ye hardened and ye stiffnecked people, how long will ye suppose that the Lord will suffer you? Yea, how long will ye suffer yourselves to be led by foolish and blind guides? Yea, how long will ye choose darkness rather than light?
In preparing for and researching this post it took me in some surprising directions. What I didn’t expect was to find a complete lack of fruits. I supposed I had known this all along but didn’t realize it. I imagine somewhere deep inside, all church members have known this all along. It is just a scary thing to admit to oneself that a man who you want to be a prophet is not. But this fear is allayed in Jesus Christ. Because as we research in the scriptures we can see that it is has been prophesied that our leaders will not be seers, revelators, translators, and prophets. God is in control, he will save the righteous. Our righteousness and obedience to God is not dependant on the prophethood of our leaders. rather it is dependant upon our own prophethood. Seek the guidance of the Spirit, even if it doesn’t fit with what you’ve always been taught.
In closing, there are some questions I want you to ask yourselves if you haven’t already. Can a man be a seer, revelator, translator, and prophet who does not exhibit the fruits of those gifts? If yes, how does that explain the scriptures which tell us that fruits can be used to determine who is a true seer, revelator, translator, and prophet? If no, why do you continue to sustain a man as a prophet who is not one?
Some may loudly proclaim that examining the claims or our leaders is speaking evil of the Lord’s anointed, and the start down the road of Apostasy. But it is not. Rather it is obeying the scriptural mandate to determine who really is the Lord’s anointed. But please don’t think that I think I have all the answers. I truly don’t, all I have are my own experiences and observations. If you think my conclusions are wrong please share with me why. Just comment below this post. I keep censoring to a minimum. I only delete spam. So don’t think that just because you disagree with me your comment wont get approved. It will(if it gets cued at all). Please bring President Monson’s works, words, and writings, so that we may examine them. I’m not afraid to be wrong. I’ve been wrong many times before. It’s part of learning. But I hope that you, likewise, will not be afraid to be wrong.
I want to leave you with my own imperfect witness of the Saviour Jesus Christ. The time of the gentiles(that’s us) is coming to a close and He will remember his covenant with Israel. We are sinning against the Gospel and soon it will be taken from us and given back to Israel. God loves us so much that he will not allow our wicked state to continue forever. He will send the one mighty and strong to bring order to the church. I pray that we will be examining the fruits of anyone claiming to be a seer. Because the one mighty and strong will not come from the church hierarchy, he will not come through official channels. May God bless you in your spiritual journey, and that includes you too, Brother Thomas Monson.